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Re: Summit signs

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Oh dang, why did you wait so long to post that. The McGannon sisters convinced you to withold the evidence I bet.

Took me less than a minute to find his Linkedin profile...who cares if it's been 5 years light the torches and grab the pitchforks!!!

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George James wrote:Oh dang, why did you wait so long to post that. The McGannon sisters convinced you to withold the evidence I bet.

Took me less than a minute to find his Linkedin profile...who cares if it's been 5 years light the torches and grab the pitchforks!!!

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These are always the best & this thread is proof again that the end of August is always a fun time to pop in and click around in here. \:D/
+1 :lol:

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George James wrote:These are always the best & this thread is proof again that the end of August is always a fun time to pop in and click around in here. \:D/
Yo, George, while you're here... Could I borrow one of your laminated 14er signs, please?

Maybe if I try it I'll understand why everybody does it.
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I could not give less of a s**t about summit signs and what the elevations on them say, as long as they aren't left on the mountain. It's nice that they give some of you something to feel superior about, though.

Is it really that hard to understand "why people do it"? Not everybody climbs 50 14ers. It might be one of the ultimate achievements of some people's lives to summit a 14er, and for various reasons (health, geography, income limitations for travel/gear) they may only get the chance to do it one time. I have zero problem understanding why one might want a sign with the peak name and elevation to commemorate the moment for themselves, or even so that they can brag to their friends about what they accomplished. For some people, climbing Bierstadt might be a much more significant achievement than it is to some of us who do this regularly.

So if you're too cool for summit signs, that's fine, do your thing. You can look at those who use them and secretly delight in how much more hardcore you must be than them, and how you'd never be so lame. But as long as people are packing out what they packed in, who gives a fuuuuuuck?
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tjmartn1 wrote:I could not give less of a s**t about summit signs and what the elevations on them say, as long as they aren't left on the mountain. It's nice that they give some of you something to feel superior about, though.

Is it really that hard to understand "why people do it"? Not everybody climbs 50 14ers. It might be one of the ultimate achievements of some people's lives to summit a 14er, and for various reasons (health, geography, income limitations for travel/gear) they may only get the chance to do it one time. I have zero problem understanding why one might want a sign with the peak name and elevation to commemorate the moment for themselves, or even so that they can brag to their friends about what they accomplished. For some people, climbing Bierstadt might be a much more significant achievement than it is to some of us who do this regularly.

So if you're too cool for summit signs, that's fine, do your thing. You can look at those who use them and secretly delight in how much more hardcore you must be than them, and how you'd never be so lame. But as long as people are packing out what they packed in, who gives a fuuuuuuck?



You must have a sign for every 14er maybe some of the 15ers we have? I never said I was more hardcore or better, just people should show that they were actually on the mountain they labeled and not one half way across the state, but your enthusiasm is much appreciated :lol:
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tjmartn1 wrote:But as long as people are packing out what they packed in, who gives a fuuuuuuck?
tj, isn't that sort of strident behavior for one so moderate as you?

I'm shocked.
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I honestly have to wonder how many of the posts on both sides of the aisle on this thread are just trolls having fun.
I will admit to taking signs up mountains myself (not cardboard ones, just paper ones).
And I will admit to leaving some of them rolled up in the summit registers in case future climbers wanted to use them in photos.
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Sean Nunn wrote:And I will admit to leaving some of them rolled up in the summit registers in case future climbers wanted to use them in photos.
The Joan of Arc treatment for you, Mr. Nunn.
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Sean Nunn wrote:I honestly have to wonder how many of the posts on both sides of the aisle on this thread are just trolls having fun.
I will admit to taking signs up mountains myself (not cardboard ones, just paper ones).
And I will admit to leaving some of them rolled up in the summit registers in case future climbers wanted to use them in photos.
Sounds like a troll to me.
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LURE wrote:Could I borrow one of your laminated 14er signs, please?
Absolutely not. Can't break up the set. Get your own
Maybe if I try it I'll understand why everybody does it.
You really should try it if you rrreally haven't done it. I don't believe you haven't done it. Who of us has not stood on top of one of these and posed with some sort of sign? Suspicious.

Srsly tho go try it if you haven't. It just plain American fun, and you'll never be bored if you try something new. Really, there's no telling to what you can do!

PS - you get free sandwich out of it still right? why wouldnt you do it amiright
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Re: Summit signs

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TravelingMatt wrote:One lightyear = 299792458 m = 983571056 feet.
I believe 299792458m would be one light second. And I believe that is only the case in a vacuum without any gravitational forces affecting it.

In a constantly changing atmospheric mixture and density, the speed of light, and thus a light year, would be constantly fluctuating.
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paul0 wrote:
TravelingMatt wrote:One lightyear = 299792458 m = 983571056 feet.
I believe 299792458m would be one light second. And I believe that is only the case in a vacuum without any gravitational forces affecting it.
Yes, I meant one light-second. This does not change what I wrote that a 14er in light-nanoseconds would be at least 13,770 feet MSL.

To five significant figures, which is what our mountains are measured to, gravitational lensing does not affect measurement. The equation for angle of deflection of light due to gravity is theta = [4GM]/[r(c^2)]. For the earth in SI units, the exponent of G is -11, M is 24, r is 6 and c^2 is 16, making the exponent of theta -9 give or take. That is, billionths of radians, which you'd be taking the cosine of anyway to get the factor.

IOW, shut up
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